1 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,360 Your Royal Highness. 2 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,000 So sorry, I didn't see you there. 3 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,600 - Service isn't till later. - Oh, no, no, I wasn't, um... 4 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,560 ...uh, please, carry on. 5 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Can I ask you a question? 6 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,600 Of course, Your Royal Highness. 7 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,840 You didn't happen to catch a... 8 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:14,560 ...an interview I did last night on, um... 9 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:15,720 on television, did you? 10 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,320 - Interview? - Yes. On, uh, on Newsnight. 11 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,040 No, Your Royal Highness. 12 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,080 No, no, no. Right. Never mind. 13 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Carry on. 14 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Oh. 15 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,720 Yeah. 16 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,080 Forgive us our trespasses 17 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,600 as we forgive those who trespass against us. 18 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,200 {\an8}...now spectacularly backfired on Prince Andrew. 19 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,880 {\an8}Many royal watchers are stating their disbelief 20 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,680 {\an8}that he decided to do this interview in the first place. 21 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,216 - If the Prince and his advisors... - Jesus. 22 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,240 What? 23 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,880 It's everywhere. 24 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,800 I mean seriously, it's headlines all over the world. 25 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,080 Look. 26 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,120 Extraordinaire. 27 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Reale britannico da Emily Maitlis. 28 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Schweigender Prinz! 29 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,920 Wait, that's Japanese. 30 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,680 You're big in Japan. Fuck me, that's famous. 31 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,416 - Can I help with this? - No, you're shit at it. 32 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Right. 33 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,680 - Big in Japan! - Whoo! 34 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,240 {\an8}Oop. 35 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,920 Pug? 36 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,920 {\an8}How long have you been here? 37 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,800 A while. 38 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,160 How... how... how was the shoot? 39 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,920 Who have you spoken to? 40 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,920 Her Majesty rang last night. 41 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,360 - She rang you at the shoot? - Yep. 42 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Well, what did she say? 43 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,360 I'm to keep a low profile for the time being. 44 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Just, you know... 45 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,600 ...wait and see. 46 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,040 You watched, I assume? 47 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Yeah. 48 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,760 And? 49 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,200 I thought you were wonderful. 50 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:45,760 Clear, honest, honourable, like you always are. 51 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,720 How are the girls? 52 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Well, they'll be here later. 53 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:51,720 That bad was it? 54 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,600 Oh, no. You know what the press are like. 55 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,120 Damned if you do, damned if you don't. 56 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,040 It'll blow over. It... it always does. 57 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,400 But... you may need lawyers. 58 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,880 What? 59 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Bea says she saw a report on the internet. 60 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,840 Apparently Virginia Giuffre is upset that you didn't apologise. 61 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,000 I did apologise. 62 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,440 No, darling, you didn't. 63 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,560 - Didn't I? - No. 64 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,800 Could have sworn that I did. 65 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,320 I... I... I... I'm just telling you what... what the girls told me. 66 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:29,760 They... say... she's coming after you... or something. 67 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Yeah, the shoot was good. 68 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Bagged a hundred birds. 69 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Best shot of the day. 70 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,920 Yeah, I reckon that'd be a good time. 71 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,920 Thank you. Thank you. 72 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,280 Well done. 73 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,160 Speech. 74 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,240 Right, get back to work. Back to work. 75 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,840 Amanda, shall we? 76 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,800 I'm guessing you've seen the papers? 77 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,800 No regrets, no remorse. 78 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,920 That pretty much sums them up. 79 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,440 The queen is in shock. 80 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,120 I don't think I've ever seen her so upset. 81 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,280 However blind love may be, to wake up 82 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,040 and read headlines like this about your own child, that's... 83 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,560 ...something I wouldn't wish on any mother. 84 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,320 - No. - The Duke of York is who he is. 85 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Your job was to protect him from himself. 86 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,640 That you have spectacularly failed to do. 87 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,360 And, in the process, you have managed single-handedly 88 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,720 to threaten the survival of the monarchy. 89 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,160 I wa... I was... 90 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,480 - It was my job to support. - Your job, Amanda, 91 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,800 was to anticipate this shit show and stop it. 92 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,520 The royal family is unstable enough without one of them 93 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,880 being accused of kiddy fiddling. 94 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,080 No one is saying that Prince Andrew... 95 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 They may not say it, Amanda, 96 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,640 but the whole world is thinking it. 97 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,480 I told you explicitly to work with myself 98 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,240 and the other private secretaries, 99 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,480 but you ignored me. 100 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,640 And now, lo and behold, we find ourselves here 101 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,960 in a clusterfuck worthy of the Kardashians. 102 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,480 I'm afraid, you're going to need to step back. 103 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,880 We'll have you sign an NDA 104 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,000 and there'll be the usual severance package. 105 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,880 But as of Monday, you no longer work for the Duke of York. 106 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,080 Uh, does... does Prince Andrew know about this? 107 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,280 The decision comes from higher up. 108 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,040 Donal, would you show Amanda out, please? 109 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,480 Oh, shit. 110 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,080 What? 111 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Uh, they've just sacked Amanda Thirsk. 112 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,840 - You're kidding? - Yeah, she's just texted. 113 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,400 ABC are early. We're on. 114 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,880 - Oh, shit, okay. - Alright, okay. Yeah. 115 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,200 - ...on the live stream... - Okay. 116 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,760 Wait. 117 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,280 - Okay, can we hang on? - ... nine, eight... 118 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,440 - Good? - No. 119 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:20,720 - ...seven, six... - ABC in five, four, three... 120 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,880 ...two, one... 121 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,080 And now joining us is Emily Maitlis 122 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,760 from BBC Newsnight. 123 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,640 So, Emily, did you ever believe 124 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,960 that this story would blow up the way it has? 125 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,640 To be honest, no. 126 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,520 We knew it was important, 127 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,880 but we never anticipated this level of interest. 128 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,400 And that outfit, Emily, the... the military style jacket, 129 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,280 we are getting so much interest from our viewers about that. 130 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,640 Well, I just wanted to wear something I was 131 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,880 comfortable in. 132 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,760 I mean, I've worn that outfit a few times for a few interviews, 133 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,880 so, I guess it's kind of my lucky jacket. 134 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Well, it was certainly lucky for you. 135 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Now, tell us, Emily, 136 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,280 you've interviewed a lot of famous people in your time. 137 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,480 How did you find Prince Andrew? 138 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:10,880 His Royal Highness was incredibly candid with me. 139 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,800 I mean, you'll know this, but most people I interview 140 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,640 are frankly PR'd to death. 141 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,880 So, I really appreciated that unvarnished authenticity. 142 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,040 That's fascinating. 143 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Tell us, Emily, how does it feel 144 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,600 to take down a member of the monarchy? 145 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:12,080 Daddy... bagged a hundred birds at yesterday's shoot. 146 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,680 - Best shot of the weekend. - Yeah, not much competition. 147 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,720 All the same, proud of you. 148 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,760 Ma'am. 149 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,080 Bea, what is it? 150 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Sorry. 151 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,800 What's the matter, my love? 152 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Bea? 153 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,480 I think I should call off the wedding. 154 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,320 No, no. No, absolutely not. 155 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,240 I'll not have this bloody stupid interview 156 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,240 - getting in the way of your plan. - Pups, wait! 157 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,480 Look, I know how much you wanted last night to work, 158 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,320 how much we all wanted it to work, 159 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,960 but the fact is they've twisted your words. 160 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,360 And now it's so much harder... 161 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,320 ...for you, for all of us. 162 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,720 And now you're gonna be attacked even more. 163 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,200 And I hate that, and I hate that I was there and I... 164 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,160 Darling, this has nothing to do with you. 165 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,880 But it does. 166 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,160 Of course it does. I'm your daughter. 167 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,000 And the truth is, I... I thought it would be okay, and it wasn't. 168 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,880 It isn't. It's not okay. 169 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,080 And to think that my wedding would get in the way 170 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,480 of you defending yourself, and... 171 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,160 ...I mean, fact is I... I... I just can't think about anything 172 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,240 other than what you said 173 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,120 and how it's blown up in our faces. 174 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,640 Anyway. 175 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,320 That's what I think. 176 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Well, I think... this is a wonderful family 177 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,480 and I think we just need to stick together 178 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,480 and... be kind, 179 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,560 and remember that when push comes to shove, 180 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,400 nobody can tell us what we can and can't do 181 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,960 because at the end of the day, 182 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,496 we all just need to keep our chins up. 183 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Please shut up. Just... 184 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,200 ...shut up. 185 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Most people I interview are frankly PR'd to death, 186 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,800 so, I really appreciated that unvarnished authenticity. 187 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,600 - Oh. - That's fascinating. 188 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,760 Tell us, Emily, 189 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,440 how does it feel to take down a member of the monarchy? 190 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Well, I'm a journalist. 191 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,400 I just ask the questions. 192 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Oh. 193 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,280 Darling. 194 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,400 We... we need to talk, uh, about lawyers. 195 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,080 Pug. 196 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,640 They've sacked my private secretary without consulting me. 197 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,120 She sent a text. 198 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,280 She's been told to keep away. 199 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,000 Amanda was very good to me. 200 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,360 They've summoned me to Balmoral. 201 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,760 When you... told Bea... about the firm, 202 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,040 you said you loved her... 203 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,720 ...Eugenie, and your mother. 204 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Why didn't you include me? 205 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,800 You've told me in private many times. 206 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,720 Or have you forgotten that too? 207 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,760 I was talking about family. 208 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,760 We're divorced. 209 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,720 I tried, you know, I... I just... 210 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,680 ...I was trying not to sound guilty. 211 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,880 - Are you? - No! No, I... I told you. No. 212 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,080 His Royal Highness, Prince Andrew. 213 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,560 The Duke of York's now agreed to step down from all royal duties, 214 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,200 including military. 215 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Losing Colonel of the Grenadier Guards 216 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,280 went down particularly badly. 217 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Frankly, you couldn't make this shit up. 218 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,240 We need the media to do their bit. 219 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,320 I don't want to see any more headlines 220 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,960 like, 'His Royal Dryness', or 'Duke of Porkies'. 221 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,880 - I'll sort it. - Good. 222 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,880 'Cause if we don't tread very carefully, 223 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,480 you and I will be shovelling more shit than Dyno-Rod. 224 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,720 I need Prince Andrew off the map. 225 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,680 I also need the public to know that we take a clear position 226 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,880 ahead of any potential legal action by Giuffre. 227 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,080 Brief the usual press, 228 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,760 and emphasise the Prince's isolation. 229 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,560 The message is, the Duke of York has completely cut himself off 230 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,440 from his old life in order to focus on clearing his name. 231 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,440 And he accepts this new reality with dignity. 232 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,440 Your Royal Highness? 233 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,680 You call me Andrew now. 234 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,280 We have people to do the washing. 235 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,800 Yes, I can do it too. 236 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Oh, thank you. Wow. 237 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Thank you, thank you so much for this. 238 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,880 Um, gosh, I feel incredibly privileged 239 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,000 and overwhelmed, actually. 240 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Um, sorry, yes, I wanna thank my incredible team at Newsnight, 241 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,400 Esme Wren, Stewart MacLean, Sam McAlister, and Jake Morris. 242 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,040 And to my husband, where are you? Mark? 243 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,440 Mark, thanks, thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. 244 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Thanks for this. 245 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,400 - Em, congratulations. - Thank you. 246 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,920 Thank you. 247 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,440 Yeah, well done. Don't mention the victims. 248 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,680 Em. You okay? 249 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell 250 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,960 took the 17-year-old Virginia to London to party 251 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,000 with Prince Andrew. 252 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Then we went to club Tramp, and he danced with me, 253 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,040 and... and he sweats a lot, and he smells funny. 254 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,800 Um, and then... and then we get in the car, 255 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560 and, um, Ghislaine tells me in the car 256 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,520 that I have to do... 257 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,160 what I do for Jeffrey for Prince Andrew. 258 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,160 And that's when I learned what was going to happen. 259 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,800 That's great, thank you. 260 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,200 Now... 261 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,720 - Thanks for seeing me. - No, of course. 262 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720 It's been a weird few weeks. 263 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Yeah. 264 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,920 - Cheers. - Cheers. 265 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,920 So... how's Emily? 266 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,120 She's fine. 267 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,000 - Riding high. - Yeah. 268 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,640 Um, it's been a bit crazy, but, yeah, back to work. 269 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,240 I was sorry to hear about your... 270 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,760 I'll be fine. 271 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,560 There are other jobs. It's... 272 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,680 ...it's Prince Andrew and his family that I'm worried about. 273 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,560 Yeah, yeah. I guess there... 274 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,000 ...there are no great outcomes for anyone, really. 275 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,440 You've all done pretty well out of it. 276 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,120 I studied law, Stew. 277 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,160 I know how facts can be manipulated. 278 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,800 And Emily did a brilliant job of making the Prince look guilty. 279 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,360 Truth is, you have no proof that he slept with anyone underage 280 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,000 or you would've used it in the interview. 281 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,960 I mean, what if you're all wrong? 282 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,240 What if the Prince's worst crime 283 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,880 is that he's simply clumsy and misspoke? 284 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,240 I guess that's between him and his conscience. 285 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,400 Oh, you mean he should have apologised. 286 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,256 - It would have helped. - Of course, it would. 287 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,000 And he could have apologised. 288 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,680 He should never have depended on Epstein's money, 289 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,680 however much he needed it. 290 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,400 The man was a monster. 291 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,280 But does any of that 292 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:54,880 make him guilty of having sex with a minor? 293 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,640 'Cause that's what everyone assumes he did. 294 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,560 It's not even up for debate, right? 295 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,000 If he'd apologised, we wouldn't be having this conversation. 296 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,000 In what world does a non-apology equal guilt? 297 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:12,960 I mean, seriously, how can the man get a fair trial now? 298 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Look at the press. 299 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,760 He's already guilty by association. 300 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,080 And now I hear Panorama are taking on the story. 301 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,520 Say what you like about how Emily conducted the interview. 302 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,080 She put no words in his mouth. 303 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,200 Oh, yeah, right. 304 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,120 Power without responsibility. 305 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,320 Thank you all for coming. 306 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,720 If I could get everyone to introduce themselves. 307 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,120 I'm Stephen Ferguson, barrister. 308 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,680 Uh, Sarah Ferguson, uh, no relation. 309 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,600 Duke's ex-wife and biggest fan. 310 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,200 Well, I'm, uh, Gary Bloxsome, solicitor and, uh, yeah. 311 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Laura Mitcham, public relations officer. 312 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,960 And our associates, Noah, Arthur, and Cleo. 313 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,240 So, following Prince Andrew's Newsnight interview 314 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,280 with Emily Maitlis in November last year, 315 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,680 he received unwarranted negative press. 316 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,600 And we can assume Miss Giuffre's lawyers 317 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,600 are preparing to issue civil proceedings. 318 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,200 Our task is twofold. 319 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,600 One, to fight any attempt to extradite 320 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,896 His Royal Highness to America... 321 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,880 Wait... sorry, extradite? 322 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,120 What are you talking about? 323 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,440 There's a slim chance Miss Giuffre may try 324 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,720 and force you to face trial in America. 325 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,640 Are you joking me? I'm... 326 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,096 ...I'm the second son of the Sovereign, 327 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:31,600 she can't do that. 328 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,680 Strictly speaking, from a legal standpoint, it is possible. 329 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,600 But obviously, that's what we're here to prevent. 330 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,800 And also, clearly, challenge any civil proceedings in the UK. 331 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,600 As part of that fight back, we're going to remind the public 332 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,920 of His Royal Highness's sense of public duty 333 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,360 and his loyalty to both Crown and country. 334 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,880 - Laura, do you want to...? - Yes, sure. 335 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,920 So, obviously the press is all a bit negative right now, 336 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,680 but we're gonna be countering that with a campaign 337 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,320 of public relations and, yeah, you know, 338 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,560 just a lot of positive stories. 339 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,680 You and your work. 340 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,960 Obviously not your old work, just anything you're doing now. 341 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,440 I'm not doing anything now. 342 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,880 Okay, thanks, Laura. It's early days. 343 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,680 We're still finding our feet, 344 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,720 but the main thing is we're on your team. 345 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,136 And we're going to get you through this. 346 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Can I just say, Sir, what a huge fan I am of Pitch@Palace. 347 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,640 I know a couple of young entrepreneurs 348 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,280 whose lives have been transformed by what you did. 349 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,480 And all your amazing work with your charities 350 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,000 and... and the military. Just bloody brilliant. 351 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,640 There is no doubt in my mind, you are gonna get through this, 352 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,000 and we are gonna get you back where you belong. 353 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,200 Thank you... Gary. 354 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,400 You bet. 355 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,720 I just didn't expect it from royalty. 356 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,600 I didn't expect it from someone 357 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,880 that people look up to and admire, 358 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,680 you know, in the royal family. 359 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,600 When they got back to the house, 360 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,640 she says she asked Epstein 361 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,120 to take a picture to show her family. 362 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,680 She then carried out the instructions 363 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,720 to entertain the prince. 364 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560 There was a bath, and it started there 365 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,280 and then it led into the bedroom, and... 366 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,360 ...it didn't last very long, the whole entire procedure. 367 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,360 It was disgusting. 368 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,160 - Um... - Jesus. 369 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760 ...he wasn't mean or anything, but... 370 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,880 ...he got up and he said thanks and walked out. And... 371 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,536 Are you guys watching Panorama? 372 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,200 Yep. 373 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320 This is never gonna end. 374 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,416 What are you gonna do about the wedding? 375 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,760 G hislaine tells me I did a really good job, 376 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,200 - and she pats me on the back... - Bea? 377 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,680 Uh, I have to go. I'll call you in a bit. 378 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,240 We can't wait for this to stop. 379 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,880 This is not our problem. 380 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,656 And I'll support Daddy in every way that I can, 381 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,400 but this is not our problem. 382 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,520 ... these c hains of deceit. 383 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,040 But these powerful people were my chains. 384 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,800 I didn't know what had happened and I just, I didn't... 385 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,120 I couldn't comprehend how, on the highest levels 386 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,280 of the government and powerful people were allowing this. 387 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,240 Oh God, don't tell me you're looking at porn. 388 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,400 No. No. 389 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,520 Give me that. 390 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,320 - Why are you reading this? - I just Googled your name. 391 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,520 You shouldn't be reading this. I'm serious, Milo. 392 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,200 You're my mum, why shouldn't I? 393 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,656 Anyway, why are they saying that stuff about you? 394 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,160 That's just words. It's fine. 395 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Yeah, but why are they saying it? 396 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,120 Look... 397 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,920 I interview powerful people. 398 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320 And sometimes when I ask them difficult questions, 399 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,280 their... followers or whatever, they get pissed off. 400 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,320 And are they right? 401 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,560 No. 402 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,040 I did an interview with Prince Andrew 403 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,600 that even Buckingham Palace admits was totally correct. 404 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,560 You haven't seen what else they say. 405 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,000 Yeah, well, I don't want to. 406 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,320 Some of them... are saying like 407 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,776 they're gonna come after you and shit. 408 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,240 Nobody's coming after me. 409 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,680 Your stalker did. 410 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800 Oh, sorry. 411 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,960 {\an8}No worries. 412 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,080 {\an8}Okay. 413 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,880 Why are we doing this? 414 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,200 We're just gonna bag up goodies for the hospice. 415 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,720 While someone just happens to be filming us? 416 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,296 You don't think it looks a bit obvious? 417 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,056 No, because they're just gonna film us filling the bags up with goodies. 418 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,960 It's to show we care. 419 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,920 It looks like a fucking farmers' market. 420 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,336 You've never been to a farmer's market. 421 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,016 We're not actually delivering them, are we? 422 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,176 - No. - Because there's no way 423 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,760 I'm hugging some fucking OAP 424 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,760 in the middle of a pandemic. 425 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,480 Laura, can we get this over with? 426 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Not ready, not yet. 427 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,200 Two seconds, please, Sir. 428 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,920 You know, I'm actually paying these clowns. 429 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,816 Be careful. They might be recording. 430 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Yes, I don't actually give a shit. 431 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,200 Okay, so if you could just act like we're not here. 432 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280 So, um, in your own time. 433 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,640 - Turnover. - Rolling. 434 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,000 And, action. 435 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,760 Thank you. 436 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,400 Try to look a bit more cheerful. Smile. 437 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280 Please don't throw them in. 438 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,960 Andrew... 439 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,680 Don't, don't. 440 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,200 What the bloody hell is going on? 441 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,016 Laura thought the food parcels would be a good way... 442 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,616 I don't give a shit about the food parcels. 443 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,960 I mean my legal case. 444 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,240 I'm fighting for my life here, Stephen. 445 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,280 And all I can see is fucking PR stunts 446 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,880 and meetings about meetings about meetings. 447 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,200 Why isn't this over? 448 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Honestly, Sir, I was moved by the food parcels 449 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,280 knowing that someone in a hospice somewhere 450 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,360 was gonna get to open those bags. 451 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,280 Take off your bloody masks. 452 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,240 You sound like the Muppets. 453 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,240 Your Royal Highness, the law will do what the law does. 454 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,800 But let me just say you are doing everything right. 455 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,320 I'm not doing anything, Gary. 456 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,040 With respect Sir, legal cases like this... 457 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Don't with respect me! 458 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,320 You've had months to sort this shit out. 459 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,040 How is it even possible that some girl I can't even remember 460 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,760 has this much fucking power? 461 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,360 Sir, when you say 'girl'... 462 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,000 ...in a way, yes. 463 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,000 But then again, uh, not in any sense. 464 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,520 I mean... 465 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,680 ...not really a girl. 466 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,720 That word's, um... 467 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,600 ...if I can be honest with you, Sir, 468 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,560 that's not a word... 469 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,080 ...we... we wouldn't be encouraging you to use that... word. 470 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,880 Is that how solicitors make money? 471 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,120 Just taking forever to make a fucking point? 472 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,720 Sir, Giuffre's team are preparing 473 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,920 to issue civil proceedings 474 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,840 against you for battery. 475 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Battery? 476 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,760 Rape. 477 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,200 Well, that is an outrageous accusation 478 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,160 - which I absolutely deny. - And we appreciate that, Sir. 479 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520 But defending you against such accusations 480 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,200 is what we've been busy doing. 481 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960 I'm going for a walk. 482 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,960 This week England faces yet another lockdown 483 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,160 as the prime minister struggles, in his own words, 484 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680 to put Covid back in its box. 485 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,640 Meanwhile, in Denmark, a strain of the virus 486 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,120 has been discovered on a mink farm. 487 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,120 Experts believe it may have already spread to humans. 488 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,120 Okay. 489 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,000 Another virologist, Professor Lewis, 490 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,760 is gonna explain the structure of the virus. 491 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,920 - And... - I'll die of boredom. 492 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,480 ...we might have a junior minister from Health, 493 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,200 but everyone's scared of you now, so... 494 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,160 Hmm. 495 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,160 You know, a couple of years ago 496 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,360 my stalker broke his injunction. 497 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,200 And it's sort of... 498 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,840 ...it's my responsibility to then have to sort that out. 499 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,520 You see, the onus is on the victim. 500 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,480 The onus is on the person who has been stalked 501 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,680 to keep having to explain each time what's happened, and... 502 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,400 it's like bashing your head against a wall. 503 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,520 You don't believe it will ever stop? 504 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,760 No. 505 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,160 Do you genuinely think you'll have to live with this 506 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,880 for the rest of your life? 507 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,160 I don't... think about it. 508 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,360 You know, my way is complete denial. 509 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,920 Why are you listening to that? 510 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,640 Don't know. 511 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,600 Couldn't sleep. 512 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,160 Something about interviews. 513 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Being interviewed, how much I hated it. 514 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,640 And talking about it, about him, even his name. 515 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,160 I know. 516 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,960 Because he blighted our lives, Mark. 517 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,080 You know, he sucked out the joy 518 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,200 and because it was just so... bloody boring. 519 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,280 He's in prison. 520 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,200 He'll likely be in prison for many years to come. 521 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,160 Not forever. 522 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,160 Well... we'll meet that when we come to it. 523 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,200 Em? 524 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,320 You know, I was listening... because I wanted to remember 525 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,360 how it felt to be interviewed about something 526 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,680 that wasn't my fault. 527 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,320 That what happened to Epstein's victims wasn't their fault. 528 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,320 Yet they still had to be witnessed. 529 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,480 They still had to, you know, parade their pain 530 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,600 in the hope of even the slightest justice. 531 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,920 And, yeah, I'm not saying what happened to me was even, 532 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,160 you know, remotely similar, of course, it wasn't. 533 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,040 But just the, you know, the parading, 534 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,000 the endless bloody talking about it 535 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,120 to get anyone to take it seriously. 536 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,760 - Do you remember that? - Yeah. 537 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,280 And that's true of every woman 538 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,840 who ever complained about any kind of harassment. 539 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,840 Always uphill, always against the tide. 540 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,840 Always a... battle against the unspoken. 541 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520 You know, the look in their eye that says, you know, really? 542 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,600 Did he really? 543 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,600 You know... 544 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,520 ...you know, when I sat down with Prince Andrew, 545 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,440 I was only ever hoping to ask the right questions. 546 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,400 I didn't know how he'd be, or what he'd say, but... 547 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,800 ...it was the arrogance, the entitlement. 548 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,800 He just couldn't help himself. 549 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,520 You know, the way that... 550 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,400 ...certain men, whatever their sickness... 551 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,080 ...assume certain rights without giving it a second thought. 552 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,360 You know, their want, their need... their impulse. 553 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,120 And whether Prince Andrew was guilty or not, 554 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,360 it's just the way he was all he ever thought about 555 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,840 when he walked into a room. 556 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,880 That's it. That's, you know, 557 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,440 that's what's been bugging me. 558 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160 Is it dodgy to say I'm knackered? 559 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,296 {\an8}Maybe we can do a photo with the mother and father of the bride? 560 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,320 {\an8}- Yeah, yeah, let's do that now. - Mummy. 561 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,480 {\an8}Right, come on, come on. Get over the other side. 562 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,000 Yes, Mummy, you just go there. 563 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,760 Okay, that looks perfect. 564 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,480 Go closer, closer still. 565 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,360 That's great. Okay. Just check those. 566 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,680 Daddy, would you mind stepping aside just for this next? 567 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,816 We're gonna take an official picture with Granny and Grandpa. 568 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,360 Is that alright? 569 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,640 - No, no, no. Ab... absolutely. - Great. 570 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,600 Um... right. 571 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,960 - Mwah. - Uh, right. 572 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,920 If I could have Her Majesty and Prince Philip 573 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,160 to the bride's right. 574 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,320 Given the gravity of the implications 575 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,000 surrounding this scandal, 576 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,640 Her Majesty has now agreed to privately fund 577 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,600 the Duke of York's legal fees, 578 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,160 which means I will be needing regular updates. 579 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,680 If you don't mind. 580 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,400 Uh... 581 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,280 yesterday Giuffre's team filed suit against Prince Andrew 582 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,040 for sexual abuse under the Child Victims Act. 583 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,920 The plaintiff also claims she feared death 584 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,880 if she did not obey instructions. 585 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,440 Oh, Christ on a bike. 586 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960 They still have two physically deliver court documents 587 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,600 to the Prince or one of his legal team. 588 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,640 Our aim is to slow that process down, 589 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,920 and in the meantime, continue building our case 590 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,320 against Giuffre. 591 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,040 Let me be clear... 592 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,680 we are now getting uncomfortably close 593 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,880 to the Jubilee. 594 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,880 I need a cast iron guarantee 595 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,560 that this case will be done and dusted. 596 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,160 No ifs or buts. 597 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,280 Can you absolutely guarantee to have this wrapped up 598 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,040 by January next year at the very latest? 599 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,000 A hundred percent. 600 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,160 We can win this. 601 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,000 And if you don't? 602 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640 Sorry to bother you, Sir, there's a car downstairs. 603 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,560 We need to get you out of here as quickly as possible. 604 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,600 What's happening? 605 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,680 Uh, Miss Giuffre's legal team are about to serve you papers. 606 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,160 Serve me with papers, when? 607 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,160 The court papers, Sir, for the trial. 608 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,160 Your lawyers think it's of the utmost importance 609 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,880 you're not here to accept them. 610 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,440 If you'd follow me, Sir, there's a car downstairs. 611 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,600 - Where's the Duchess? - She's on a book tour, Sir. 612 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,600 Oh yes, of course. 613 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,960 The car's just past the main gate. 614 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,800 Please hurry along, Sir. 615 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,160 Your bags are in the boot, 616 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,160 including your favourite golf clubs. 617 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,960 I'll look after everything here, Sir. 618 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,200 Yeah. 619 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,480 The weirdest thing just happened to me. 620 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,136 Boris Johnson said he'll come on Newsnight? 621 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,480 No. 622 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,880 I ran into Princess Beatrice and Eugenie in the park. 623 00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:54,760 Shit. 624 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,920 Well, did they say anything? 625 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,640 No, they just... stared at me. 626 00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:03,480 What, like...? 627 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,760 - Like I'd really hurt them. - Oh. 628 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,496 I guess we were never gonna be their favourite people. 629 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,200 No, no, I know. I just, I don't know. I just... 630 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,320 ...didn't expect to... feel... like I did. 631 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,520 Okay, so, I'm sorry for them, I am. 632 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,760 But at the end of the day, they are princesses living in London. 633 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,800 And they're not abuse victims in New York. 634 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,160 Don't know, I just... 635 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,600 you know, for what we did... 636 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,000 to really matter, it has to go to trial. 637 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,920 Mm. 638 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,880 To court, to a, you know, a proper trial. 639 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,920 Not a... just a one hour interviewers' entertainment. 640 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,640 What do you call it? Schadenfreude. 641 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:47,616 - Mm, I was joking, Emily. - No, but you weren't. 642 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,560 That's exactly what we are. 643 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400 You know as well as I do that for most people, 644 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,640 me and Prince Andrew are the story, 645 00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:58,080 not Epstein's victims. 646 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,600 You know, Emily Maitlis dismantles 647 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,840 a member of the royal family, blah, blah, blah. 648 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,160 And what do you want? 12 Angry Men? 649 00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:07,560 For someone as powerful as him, 650 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,880 your interview is as tough as it gets. 651 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,320 But he still gets to go to Sandringham at Christmas 652 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,320 like nothing happened. 653 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,320 And it's fucked. 654 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,536 And whenever we try to get anyone 655 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,400 even remotely powerful on Newsnight... 656 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,880 Yeah, they all say no, ‘cause they're terrified 657 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,240 I'll do another Andrew on them. 658 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,360 Yeah, it's fucked. 659 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,360 Hm. 660 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,360 Well, on that note, I have to go meet another junior minister 661 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,880 from the Department of Work and Pensions. 662 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,440 Maybe he'll do an interview with you. No. 663 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,600 Sorry, Sir, uh, where are you going? 664 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,360 For a walk. 665 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080 In our... private ground. 666 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,640 {\an8}Right, Sir, uh... 667 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:09,960 {\an8}it's just... we've been asked to make sure, you know, 668 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,360 while the Yanks are trying to serve you with legal papers, 669 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,120 you're not really here, Sir. 670 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,480 - They've asked that you don't... - Don't what? 671 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,960 Do... anything. 672 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,960 I fought in the Falklands. 673 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,640 I risked my life for queen and country. 674 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,840 If I want to go for a walk, I'll go for a fucking walk! 675 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,280 Princess Beatrice. 676 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,800 Sorry I'm late. 677 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,440 Sir Edward. 678 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,680 - Beatrice. - I'm representing my father. 679 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,120 You go to court in the States, 680 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,160 you're head to head with Giuffre's team. 681 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,480 These guys pull no punches. 682 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,416 They'll argue they served papers on Prince Andrew 683 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,360 by handing them to a police officer outside Royal Lodge. 684 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,120 They'll call witnesses to his night at Tramp. 685 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,200 They'll put his Royal Highness on the stand. 686 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,640 And sure, we can go after Giuffre, 687 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:17,440 say her lawsuit is baseless, 688 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,560 but you open this up to a Stateside court case, 689 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,840 you expose the Crown. No question. 690 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,320 So, what's the timeline on this? 691 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,040 Do we have any other legal options? 692 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,720 My father's calling. 693 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,440 Daddy. 694 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,080 I want to go to trial. I'm gonna clear my name. 695 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,160 Tell them that's not a request, it's an instruction. 696 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,240 - Go to trial. - Daddy, I... 697 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,840 My father is insisting we go to trial. 698 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,280 Morning, morning all. 699 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,600 Morning. 700 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,200 I'm leaving the BBC. 701 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,120 Uh, and not... not for a while yet. 702 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,360 Anyway, I just, you know... 703 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,280 ...I just felt like, you know, I've done... 20 years here... 704 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,000 ...and now is a good time to try something different. 705 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,200 But you're no good at anything else. 706 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,040 Well, I thought I'd try parenting, Stew. 707 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,920 Good for you. 708 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,520 - Mm. - Yeah. 709 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,840 Well, maybe... maybe I'm making a terrible mistake, 710 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,920 but I... I guess I won't know till I try it. 711 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,040 So, what now? Are we just, 712 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,696 just gonna stand around here really awkwardly? 713 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,400 No, no. No, look. 714 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,360 Anyway, look, I got you all a mug. 715 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,040 - Oh. - Right. 716 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,360 5.99 on Amazon. 717 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,400 Wow. 718 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,760 This is, um, extraordinary. Wow. 719 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,760 No expense spared. 720 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,120 Something to remember me by, hey. 721 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,880 Cheers. 722 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,960 Cheers. Cheers. 723 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,120 Well done. How are we going to do any work now? 724 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,440 Thank you. 725 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,200 Thank you. 726 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:33,400 Sarah. 727 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,800 I'd offer you tea... 728 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,520 but we've had to let the staff go. 729 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,480 Your Royal Highness, Beatrice, Eugenie. 730 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,400 Sir Edward. 731 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,280 There was something you wanted to tell me? 732 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,160 Ms Guiffre's legal team have agreed terms 733 00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:02,920 for an out of court settlement. 734 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,360 After consulting with Her Majesty, 735 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,920 I'm instructed to inform you that as of today, 736 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,520 this case is now closed. 737 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,440 A statement has been prepared 738 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,440 and will be released... 739 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,600 ...along with the announcement of the settlement. 740 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,520 How much are you paying her? 741 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,800 I am not at liberty to divulge the amount. 742 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,920 Understandably, Her Majesty and the Prince of Wales 743 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:49,040 are concerned to avoid any more negative publicity 744 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,040 as we approach the Queen's Platinum Jubilee. 745 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,720 If you don't let me fight... 746 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,640 I will forever look guilty. 747 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,560 I should be allowed to clear my name. 748 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,880 I'm afraid the time for fighting has passed, Sir. 749 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,080 There is simply too much at stake to risk further delay. 750 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,520 Well, actually, it's not for you to say. 751 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,840 You'll report back to my brother 752 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,520 and you'll tell him... I fight on. 753 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,480 Given the circumstances, the Queen also feels 754 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,440 it would be a distraction if you were to attend 755 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,720 her Jubilee celebrations. 756 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,800 We thought the least embarrassing excuse 757 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,120 would be Covid. 758 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,520 Where do I go? 759 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,560 Hmm? What do I do? 760 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,720 Tell me. 761 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,040 Wh... what do I do? 762 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,720 You live with the consequences of your actions, Sir. 763 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,320 It's a sea of people. 764 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,160 There's such a huge atmosphere. 765 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,200 Yes, here we are now. 766 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,280 The doors have opened and 767 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,400 there she is. 768 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,120 This is the moment we've all been waiting for. 769 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,600 When the whole country and the Commonwealth 770 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,880 say thank you to Her Majesty. 771 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880 The crowd stretching back 772 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,720 as far as the eye can see... 773 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,360 So, if Virginia Roberts is watching this interview. 774 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,960 What is your message to her? 775 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,560 I don't... I don't have a message for her, 776 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,720 because I... I have to have a thick skin. 777 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,200 And if somebody's gonna make those sorts of allegations, 778 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,680 I have to have a thick skin, and I've just got to get on with it. 779 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,280 But they never happened.